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Funny that you mention places such as Detroit,Colombia, Jamaica and Baghdad. Guess what those places all have in common: A whole lot of guns. The more guns you have, the more people who will be killed by them. Those statistics match almost across the board in any place where there are a lot of guns. Guess where all those liberal Chicago guns come from? Conservative, Republican Red State Indiana.

I realize that I am talking about guns and you are talking about gun control, but you can't discount my point.

Also, you mentioned Chicago and Detroit being controlled by liberals but guess which section of the country has the highest murder, crime and gun ownership rate? That would be your conservative, republican, red state bible belt.

I am guessing that "toad734" did not read the article. Because he/she totally missed the point. According to the article, Jamaica has the most restrictive gun laws in the world and is 3rd highest in murders in the world. Can you not put 2 and 2 together? Washington DC has the most restrictive gun laws in the USA and yet has as many murders some weeks as Baghdad! The answer is not more gun control laws, the answer is more crime control! Enforce the laws that are already on the books, don't write more useless ones. Criminals do not obey the law.

So why does Canada, Japan, almost all of Western Europe, China, Taiwan, Singapore, Korea all have much much lower homicide rates than the United States?

Perhaps on the books, places like Mexico or Brazil have restricted gun laws, but what about enforcement? The fact that guns still exist there and are responsible for the majority of murders in these countries still says a fair bit. Ever heard of a concept called corruption? Thus the United States cannot be compared with countries such as that. toad734 has many good points, perhaps you should reread it.

Toad734 says “The more guns you have, the more people who will be killed by them” as though people will believe that this is somehow self evident, and jonny asks questions like “why does Canada, Japan, etc., etc., etc., all have much lower homicide rates than the United States” again as though it is self evident that the number of guns is the obvious problem.

The facts do not however support their views, I live in the UK where guns are banned but we still have gun crime because criminals ignore the law and enforcement can be hampered by lack of evidence and by groups supporting individual rights. In Switzerland they have more guns per head of population than the USA and most other countries for that matter. Shooting competitions start in Switzerland at age 12 years and every young man of 21 years is conscripted into the armed forces or militia and trained to shoot an automatic weapon which he keeps at home until he is 42 years old and is released from duty. Yes I do mean that most homes in Switzerland have a machine gun and someone who knows how to use it! Why then is gun grime in the UK (with no guns) some 70% higher than Switzerland? The problem is the people who pull the trigger not the gun!

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