Christians Need To Be Careful About Antichrist / Obama Comparisons

All Because Thousands Are Thinking It Doesn't Make It True

Commentary by Daniel T. Zanoza

I am a Christian.  That means I believe Jesus Christ lived, was crucified, died and was resurrected to atone for my sins.  I believe Christ came for all mankind and an individual has the right to reject Christ or to embrace Him.  I believe God uses Holy Scripture to communicate with mankind.  And, again, all of us have free will to accept these writings as being from God or merely say they are words on a page in a simple book.

I will not deny my faith.  I don't care if individuals like Eric Zorn of the Chicago Tribune call Christians "mentally challenged."  I don't care if some politicians deny their faith either, no matter whether they be Republican or Democrat, conservative or liberal.  But any individual who runs away from their faith--no matter whether he or she be Jew or Christian, Islamic or Hindu--does not have my respect and if they were a politician, I would not support that individual for any elected office.

Some of you might be wondering where I'm going with this piece.  A short time ago, I wrote a column titled, "Obama The Antichrist? Hmm."  http://rffm.typepad.com/republicans_for_fair_medi/2008/02/obama-the-antic.html  Literally thousands of people have read that commentary.  By far more people have read this one column than probably anything I have written, at least in this short period of time.

I wrote about Sen. Obama and the antichrist in one column because of a number of reasons.  However, I was NOT calling Obama the antichrist or the "Beast" or Satan.  In fact, I went back and reread the piece just to make certain what I wrote was what I meant to say--and it was.

Unfortunately, some people, but not all, misunderstood my point.  I found there are those who believed Mr. Obama was the antichrist long before my essay.  I have also learned many Christians are coming to this conclusion on their own.  For example, after I wrote the commentary, I found on the Yahoo search engine alone, there were more than two and one half million results on the search terms Obama and antichrist.  Therefore, I did not start this speculation.  Something happened that triggered this thinking in the minds of millions of Americans.

Anyone who believes Barack Obama is the antichrist at this time is wrong.  There are not enough signs for Christians to believe this and I also feel it is inappropriate and sinful to say such things about another individual, unless we know it is true.  Someone said something very poignant to me the other day.  They said, "imagine how hurtful it would be if someone was calling you the antichrist and it wasn't true."  Jesus said, "Do unto others, as you would have them do unto you."

However, there was a reason I wrote the column and there was a reason the antichrist came into my mind along with the name Barack Obama.  To begin, it wasn't Obama's fault, at least to my knowledge.  There are some supporters of the Illinois Senator who are referring to him in spiritual terms.  CNSNews.com posted a piece titled, "Obama's Support Steeped in Messianic Terminology."  The column addressed how some Barack Obama supporters are talking about the junior senator from Illinois as if he were a deity.  Some have referred to him as a "savior."  Even CNN's Glenn Beck speculated on the issue.

The point of my column was when overzealous advocates for a public figure start using such terminology, there will be a reaction.  In my commentary, I also described what to look for in the antichrist, including who he will be, what kind of impact he will have on the world and how practically all of mankind will be deceived by him.

There is another factor which I must admit entered my mind.  I could not and do not understand the hysteria surrounding Obama when he has done virtually nothing legislatively and politically to earn such unwavering support.  But I did not say Barack Obama was the antichrist.

Those who are making this connection are not always doing so for political or spiritual reasons.  There are actually individuals who are afraid the End Times are coming.  Therefore, this speculation is not being done by overzealous Christians alone.  It is a phenomenon, just as real as Obama's popularity.  The only reference I have to use regarding the antichrist is Scripture.  Indeed, many Christians believe the Rapture will take place before the antichrist is identified.  And then there are Christians who do not believe in the Rapture at all.  Yet there is one thing that is certain.  The signs are not there that point to anyone as the antichrist at this time.  And the Bible clearly states beware of those who say, "here it is or there it is" because Jesus Himself did not know when the last days were coming.  Plus, there is this most important fact:  If the antichrist were here it would mean Jesus Christ would not be far behind.

I do not regret writing the column.  I do regret that some have interpreted my words as they were not intended.

Today we live in a time when words can often be misconstrued or intentionally misunderstood.  There are those with personal, societal or political agendas who often take remarks or writings out of context.  Former vice-presidential candidate Geraldine Ferraro is the latest victim of this "correct speak" when she said Obama would not be in the position he was in if he were not a black man.  Ferraro, who has a history of being tolerant almost to a fault has been pilloried by those who intentionally interpreted her words in a way in which they were not meant.  Ferraro has ended any official affiliation with the Hillary Clinton campaign, but her situation only proves a point.

Words do have meaning and there will be those who will be fast to assign their own agenda to the written or stated word.  Such was the case with my column about Barack Obama and the antichrist.

Is the antichrist here?  I don't know.  Is the antichrist any individual?  I certainly don't know that either.  The only thing I'm sure of is that we will know him when the time comes.

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Comments

[Don]

I have wondered the same thing about Senator Obama. I don't believe he is the antichrist but there are some correlations for it.

1. Relatively unknown man rises to a position of power with huge popularity.

2. Says he is christian but I have heard he was raised a muslim.

3. I find it particularly interesting that the Mayan calendar and Chinese calendar both end in 2012, so does Obamas 1st term if elected.
I realize im goin out on a limb here and may sound ridiculous, but these are just some thought that came to mind.

[GiveMeABreak]

Don:

Obama was not raised as a muslim, that's a rumor.

The Mayan calendar does not techinically end in 2012 - it marks the end of the current "creation cycle" and begins a new one. However, the Mayans couldn't even predict the correct date of their own demise anyway...

The Chinese calendar isn't ending in 2012. 2012 is the year of the Dragon which is usually said to be a year of big things, be it positive developments or large disaster.

People will believe anything they hear/read...Does anyone do any research anymore???

[koolmom21]

You are no better or no worst then any one else who is having these thoughts or maybe you never had these thoughts.(?)
I know I would never want to accuse an innocent person of something so evil. I also know that God wants us to always be awake.
You said ' And the Bible clearly states beware of those who say, 'here it is or there it is' because Jesus Himself did not know when the last days were coming.'
I believe that Jesus was trying to say we will know in our soul and no one will have to tell us because the Holy Spirit has told us. We do need to be careful that it is not coming out of our own minds so I believe that is why Jesus also said LOOK AT THE SIGNS.
I will be honest- I find myself wondering even more after I look at the signs.If Sen. Obama wins the general election I will stay wide awake.
The catholic church's view, (the signs)
1.He will be called an messiah (-has he?)
2.He will seem to allot of people to have came out of nowhere (-has he?)
3.People will follow him for no apparent reason (-are they?)
4.a political ruler who would oppose the Church (-has he?)
5.individual Antichrist may also be an apostate Christian or from an apostate family, people, or nation (i.e., that used to be Christian but by then will not be). (-does he or did he belong to such a church?)
Further, in Scripture the beast is clearly a political leader, not a Church leader. (-is he?)
6.The Antichrist will be a man with a human soul. (-is he a man with a human soul?)
Before Christ's second coming the Church must pass through a final trial that will shake the faith of many believers. The persecution that accompanies her pilgrimage on earth will unveil the 'mystery of iniquity' in the form of a religious deception offering men an apparent solution to their problems at the price of apostasy from the truth. The supreme religious deception is that of the Antichrist, a pseudo-messianism by which man glorifies himself in place of God and of his Messiah come in the flesh.

[Colleen]

When I was a teen back in 1976, Jimmy Carter was the antichrist according to a popular Baptist church in Indiana where most of the congregation sent their children to school. Of course Carter was a liberal and had the tell tale initials of J.C.
Say this is true, Obama is the antichrist. Can we thwart the "antichrist" by simply not voting for him? Do these Christians have any faith at all? Do they really think that not voting for the "antichrist" can take away his power?
Just for the record. the church I attended decided Visa was the mark of the beast when it stopped being Bank of Americard. Imagine how all the accounts would get mixed up being 666.

[koolmom21]

I am koolmom21. Google has it wrong-I did not post "When I was a teen back in 1976, Jimmy Carter was the antichrist..."Posted by:Colleen.

My comment above starts with:

"You are no better or no worst then any one else who is having these thoughts or maybe you never had these thoughts.(?)"

I am leaving this comment so people will stop referring to it when speaking to me.

Thank You, koolmom21

[ruth]

You made the statement we will know anti christ when he comes.. well we do...There are lots of other proofs beside what has been stated...
For instance Mohammed prophecied he, (the saviour of Islam) will return in the last hour.. His name will be HUSSEIN..This is a 1400 year old propphecy...It get worse...Mohammed's mythical horse was named BURAQ.. this is the same name.. It is spelled in many different ways.., barack, barak burak buraq,,,etc. IT MEANS LIGHTNING in every instance...Jesus said "I beheld satan as LIGHTING fall from heaven..""The return of Jesus is said to be as THE LIGHTNING.. This Barack is a counterfeit of Jesus return...and it still gets worse...One of the fallen angels was named 1000s of years ago BARAKiel..it means lightning of God...and more.. Solomon summoned up demon angels named no less BARAKon..Coincidence????? Only if God doesn't know the meaning of the word lightning and the future. His name means blessed in ARABIC only..and rightfully so since he is Islams saviour, the 12 imam..We will all see and soon..

[LGreen]

Let me start by acknowledging that I am also an unabashed, born-again believer in Jesus the Christ of the Bible, and have been so for 45 years. I am not perfect, but I know that my Lord and Redeemer lives and lives in me. And because no one or thing is more important to me than Christ, I offer my life to him daily.
After reading your article, titled “Obama the Antichrist? Hmm,” I could only conclude that you, as well as other Christians, are at least guilty of implicitly casting unholy and unjustified aspersions on Barack Obama. Despite your denials in your article, “Christians Need to Be Careful About Antichrist/Obama Comparisons,” you still leave readers with an undeniable impression that you are not thoroughly convinced that he is not the Antichrist or that he is a true follower of Christ. After all you stated the following:

“No, I don't really think Obama is Satan's main man on the planet Earth. But until someone
gives me a reasonable explanation for his popularity, I'm going to leave the door to this
thought open, just a crack” (from your “Obama the Antichrist? Hmm”).

So in this long, if acceptable, comment, I hope to give you a reasonable and godly explanation for his popularity.

Now Christ told us to “Stop judging by mere appearances, and make a right judgment" (John 7:24 NIV). However, in respect to Mr. Obama, you, and many other evangelical Christians, violate Christ’s commandment because your minds and hearts have been filled with Conservative political ideology rather than the Holy Spirit. A person with actual spiritual discernment can clearly see that Mr. Obama exemplifies outstanding qualities, even the fruit of the Spirit: “love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control.” “Against such things there is no law,” says Galatians 5:22-23 (NIV). Not once has Senator Obama lashed out at the terrible treatment he has received from people who claim to know Christ and from people who clearly deny Christ’s existence. Instead, he has been praised by his supporters and by some of his foes for his coolness, magnanimity, and resoluteness despite all the hell that has been launched against him. Only a man of God could withstand such animosity with grace. This may be one reason why he is so popular.
Nevertheless, you argue that his popularity is inordinate and “ungodly.” However, you disprove your own argument when you state in your March article that notions of Obama as the Antichrist did not originate with you, but it was “something” that “triggered this thinking in the minds of millions of Americans.” Millions of Americans? So Mr. Obama is not universally loved, revered, or respected as you imply? In fact, Senator Obama is locked in a tight battle with Senator John McCain, and could possibly lose the election to Mr. McCain.
Furthermore, although Barack Obama has publicly professed that Jesus is Lord over his life, you and others ignore his confession and the fact that the scripture says that “no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, ‘Jesus be cursed,’ and no one can say, ‘Jesus is Lord,’ except by the Holy Spirit,” (1 Corinthians 12:3 NIV). Barack has never denied Christ’s existence and atonement. Moreover, no where in the scripture does it say that the Antichrist will ever confess that Jesus is Lord, and you know this. So why did you ever consider that Obama could be the Antichrist?
You argue that he lacks significant political experience to be President, but when you compare his political experiences with that of President Abraham Lincoln, Obama comes out ahead. Lincoln spent eight years as a legislator in the Illinois Senate; Obama spent ten years in the Illinois Senate. Lincoln spent two years as a U.S. Congressman; Obama has spent four years as a U.S. Senator. Of course, his opponents have been arguing that he has not written significant legislation since he has been in the U.S. Senate. However, this is a lie. I dare you to go to ******* to examine his legislative record.

Despite all of the facts about Mr. Obama’s more than adequate qualifications to be President of the United States, many evangelical Christians have hypocritically and gleefully embraced Governor Sarah Palin as Senator McCain’s VP running mate. Although she possesses so thin of a political resume on U.S. domestic issues and a zero political resume on foreign policy issues, evangelical Christians have the audacity to say that she is more qualified than Barack Obama to be President and that she possesses the depth of experience to be a “heart beat away” from the presidency. This is ignorance of the highest order. In fact, there is no evidence that she has the calling of David, the shepherd boy, upon her or that Mr. McCain has the calling of Samuel, the prophet, upon him. Christians must be more sober minded then this. We dishonor the name of Christ when we show such hypocrisy and ignorance.
Now let me return to the reasons for Barack Obama’s (non-universal) popularity. For one, he is an extraordinarily gifted speaker, writer, and political thinker. In fact, many say that he possesses some of the same extraordinary gifts that Abraham Lincoln possessed, and these were gifts that Mr. Lincoln used to catapult himself onto the national stage. Just like Lincoln, Mr. Obama also came from humble origins and has risen to national prominence by using the natural gifts God has given him. I believe Abraham Lincoln, considered by many as our greatest President, was sent by God to save America. People like Lincoln, Einstein, Newton, Beethoven, and Michelangelo only occasionally grace us with their presence. What explains Obama’s popularity is precisely the fact that he is a luminary just like the aforementioned individuals. His gifts are not demonically inspired as you imply. There are just extraordinary natural gifts that God grants to some individuals. However, what makes his gifts stand-out is the timing of their unleashing. Americans are tired of all the mistakes, lies, and incompetency of the Bush years. So they are longing for greatness in a President. Senator McCain understands this and is working hard to show his potential greatness. Senator Obama does not have to work as hard because his natural gifts are so obviously superior to McCain, Bill and Hillary Clinton, and every other person who ran for President this year.
Finally, Daniel, you cannot recognize Obama’s great gifts because you disagree so strongly with his politics. Believe me, I understand this. However, if you really lay aside your political views for a moment and ask God to open your spiritual eyes, I believe God will show you what many of us see in Barack Obama. Indeed, we see God working in him, not Satan.

EDITOR'S NOTE: Per blog rules, a URL in the above comment has been deleted. Also, this reader completely dismisses the possibility of an individual being the antichrist, when Scripture tells us we're suppposed to watch all the signs, no matter how charismatic the individual may be.

[Mel Usher]

I think the AntiChrist would show up in another country like the Middle East. Osama Bin Laden would be more like the AntiChrist. He appears to be a man of religion. Yet he wants to kill white people and gets others to follow him. If Christ was to return he would show up in America to save the good people.

[D.Michael]

There are many reference to the scripture, to the man of sin (the son of perdition) this is he whom Christ Jesus will destroy at the end of times. The word antichrist, According to 1st John 2:22 - Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the son. 1st John 2:18 - Little children it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrist; whereby ye know that it is the last time. The most powerful scripture in understanding the word antichrist is 1st John 4:3 which indicates those who confessed not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh, these were not of God: AND THIS IS THAT SPIRIT OF antichrist, whereof ye heard that it should come; and even now is already in the world. The key word is SPIRIT OF. The Word of God declares that the man of sin works are the workings of Satan. See 2 Thessalonians 2:9...Revelations 13:17,18 gives reference to a mark, the name of the beast, or the number of his name. AND 18 MAKES REFERENCE TO THE NUMBER OF THE BEAST: for it is the number of a man; and his number is 666...which is chi kee stigma!!!!!!!!!

Daniel speaks of the beast in making us understand the end of times!
in chapter 7 and chapter 11.... Revelations 13 tells us. Now there are 7 heads to the beast one is wounded, and the one wounded is healed and the whole world makes an image to the beast whose deadly wound is healed.....The beast that comes out of the earth exerciseth all the power of the first beast, whose deadly wound is healed....Now the question is what head was wounded......
Now according to Daniel the man of sin bows in peaceably and they don't want to give him the honor of the Kingdom but he obtains the Kingdom by flatteries. and with the arms of a flood shall they (THE PEOPLE) be overflown from before him... That flood according to the Hebrew dictionary is an actual flood that inundates parts of that kingdom. Like Gustav and Ike. Now after the league made with him he shall began to work deceitfully....The actual word for league has a powerful meaning according to the Hebrew dictionary this word is chebar meaning: TO JOIN BY MEANS OF SPELLS TO FASCINATE CHARMER, A society a company joined together....

I have been studying this for over 30 years, and the most powerful scriptures which give reference to this spirit and man can be found on my web site...Please understand that Obama has it's ancient name and meaning and is in the Bible...These are the last times and that spirit has it's working of old...The man of sin will given a seat and great power. As Jesus was tempted in the wilderness. This Man must know Christ and deny him in order to have all the Kingdoms of the world....When Jesus chose His 12 disciples did he not say: Did I not choose 12 of you and one of you is a devil......Judas betrayed the son of God! and he was known as a son of perdition...

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Also see: the table of Alphabets on website

D.Michael

EDITOR'S NOTE: Per blog rules, link to above website was removed.

[D.Michaerl]

The beast whose deadly wound was healed can be found in Isaiah 51:9 - Awake, awake, put on strength, O arm of the LORD; awake, as in the ancient days, in the generations of old. Art thou not it that hath cut Rahab, and wounded the dragon? Art thou not it which hath dried the sea, the waters of the great deep; that hath made the depths of the sea a way for the ransomed to pass over? There are several reference to Rahab. The Hebrew menaing for Rahab, Psalms chap, 89 v.10. Broken Rahab in pieces. Hebrew meaning; Rahab, to act insolently, proud strength, and is the (Epithet of Egypt(DELTA). Epithet: Webster’s definition – a characterizing word or phrase accompanying or occurring in place of the name of a person or thing. Ps, 87 vs., 4, 6. Verse 4, make mention of Rahab and Babylon. Make Mention - in the Hebrew meaning: Zakar - TO MARK, SO AS TO BE RECOGNIZED. Also see Isa, 51 v. 9, cut Rahab and wounded the dragon. Hebrew wounded meaning: chalal meaning pierced (especially to death); profane, slain deadly wounded = wounded the dragon, as one that is slain. Where as Rev 13, v.3 denotes one of his heads as it were wounded to death. Psalms 87:4,5,6 - I will make mention of Rahab and Babylon to them that know me: behold Philistia, and Tyre, with Ethiopia; this man was born there. And of Zion it shall be said, This and that man was born in her: and the highest himself shall establish her. The LORD shall count, when he writeth up the people, that this man was born there. Here is reference to the man of sins pedigree, and birth. According to Obama birthplace we must take a look at his ancestry. According to my information here are the facts. Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., was born in 1936 on the shores of Lake Victoria in Nyang’oma Kogelo, Siaya District, Kenya. His father, Hussein Onyango Obama (1895-1979, buried at Alego), belonged to the Luo tribe also called Jaluo and Joluo, an ethnic group in Kenya, eastern Uganda, and northern Tanzania. They are part of a larger group of ethnolinguistically related Luo peoples who inhabit an area including southern Sudan, northern and eastern Uganda, western Kenya, and northern Tanzania. They speak the Dholuo language, which belongs to the Western Nilotic branch of the Nilo-Saharan language family.

The Nilo-Saharan languages are a hypothetical group of African languages spoken mainly in the upper parts of the Chari and Nile (Egypt) rivers (hence the term "Nilo-"), including historic Nubia, north of where the two tributaries of Nile meet. The largest part of its major subfamilies are found in the modern nation of Sudan, through which the Nile River flows in all its incarnations: the White and Blue Nile. Through the fathers lineage members of the Luo tribe can be traced back to ancient Egypt

What is in a name? First you must understand the phoenician alphabet. The original alphabet was developed by a Semitic people living in or near Egypt.* They based it on the idea developed by the Egyptians, but used their own specific symbols. It was quickly adopted by their neighbors and relatives to the east and north, the Canaanites, the Hebrews, and the Phoenicians. The Phoenicians spread their alphabet to other people of the Near East and Asia Minor, as well as to the Arabs, the Greeks, and the Etruscans, and as far west as present day Spain. The letters and names on the left are the ones used by the Phoenicians. The letter O was known as 'ayin,: meaning THE EYE...SYMBOL OF EGYPT, OR ALL SEEING EYE ON THE BACK OF THE ONE DOLLAR BILL. Bamah Accoring to the scripture can be found in Ezekiel chapter 20 v. 29. I would suggest you read all of Chapter 20 to understand what God is telling us..as for the word Bamah, the Hebrew meaning is the Phoenician DIETY BAAL - so then the name Obama/Obamah meaning: THE EYE OF BAAL.

"The Jewish Talmud (book of tradition/interpretation) says, "When the moon is in eclipse, it is a bad omen for Israel. If its face is as red as blood, [it is a sign that] a glitterning sword is coming to the world." The word for a glittering sword according to the Hebrew is: Baraq or Barak. Another Hebrew word is barach, also represents barak: To kneel, to bless God (as a act of adoration), AND THE VICE VERSA, (man), as a benifit, also by euphemism, to curse God or the King, as treason; altogether blaspheme, which represents the hebrew bariach: A figitive as fleeing, as THE SERPENT, AND THE CONSTELLATION BY THAT NAME.
Another Interesting fact:(The Democrate, Barack Hussein Obama name means:)

Barack/baraq/barak/barach: meaning: A glitterning sword or, barach/barak meaning: to kneel, and bless God, and in the vice versa (the man), by euphemism, to curse God, or the King by treason; to blaspheme. Which also represents the serpent and the Constellation by that name.(Hussein: meaning a Lion) Obama/Obamah: meaning the eye of Baal.
His birthaday August 4th - Sign Leo

[bnsn49]

The rapture will take place before the antichrist will come on the scene.

[D.Michael]

There is no such thing as a Rapture! The word is enraptured which comes from Proverbs 5:23 - He shall die without instruction; and in the greatness of his folly he shall go astray.
the Hebrew word ASTRAY meaning shawgah to stray MISLEAD usually to mistake, to transgress (through the idea of intoxication)to reel be ENRAPTURED, cause to go astray, decieve, err, ravished, sin through ignorance, to make to wander......beware the Rapture is a deception. Remember all who live in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.

Revelation 7

[9] After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
[10] And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.
[11] And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,
[12] Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.
[13] And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
[14] And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
[15] Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.
[16] They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat.
[17] For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.

As a Christian I would like to believe that means disciple of Christ, for I believe in the WORD of the living God. I will not be voting for either Obama or McCain for President. I am 49 years old and the only time I ever voted was when my mother made me vote for Reagan, I did not want to, but I thought I better be obedient to my Mother, for it is a Commandment of God. I am very interested in history and the politics that go with it, but God lifts up Kings and pulls them down. I believe the people’s vote does not matter, especially to those who want to rule the world. “They” give you two candidates because they would like to see who you deem most popular, but the popular votes does not count. True believers in God do not believe the world is coming to and end, but that there will be a new heavens and a new earth, but that is not until after the 1000 year reign of Christ. To all those that believe in the second coming, Jesus will rule the Earth as King of Kings and will be bringing the saints with him; those who have died in him and those who are alive and remain., The first time Jesus came he was rejected. He did not at that time come to rule the world as King, but came as a Lamb slain for sinners, for all those who believe he is the son of God life ever lasting. For God’s wrath is revealed from heaven against all who know the truth and hold that truth in unrighteousness. For evil will be defeated, and comes to it’s end, but first iniquity must come to a full. For Jesus vesture is dipped in blood for the great day of God almighty…………..For we fight not against flesh and blood, but against the powers of darkness, and spiritual wickedness in high places, against the rulers of this world…

[amy]

I've been following this Obama/Antichrist thing for quite some time, as I have also felt the same way as the author of this column. There are too many similarities for me not to be suspicious of him, and for all of you who cannot see the connection nor the pattern here are naive. I also think he is not the main guy here on earth, but I DO think he is going to lead the world into it's untimely downfall.

[ruth]

When all else fails to produce an answer refer to the words of Jesus..Luke 10-18"""I beheld satan as LIGHNING fall from heaven"
The name Barack means LIGHTNING..The Bible also tells us repeatedly that names being interpretated is meaningful..i.e. immanuel means GOD WITH US...Golgotha means the place of a skull...I am sure Jesus foreknew Baracks name would be Barack...

Islam predicted their messiah (our antichrist) would be named HUSSEIN after mohammeds grandsons...
Pretty clear to me....!!!!

As for the lighting thing Jesus also said his return would be as lightning.... Satan coming as lighting also means he would come as the return of Jesus...Barack has deliberately misled people into thinking he is the messiah (lightning return of Jesus)...
Will you understand AFTER Barack has destroyed America and maybe the entire world..???

[BQT]

I wonder if Mr. D. Michael still believes Obama to be the man of God as was stated in the posting back in September. The antichrist issue is so speculative that it warrants little consideration, at least in my opinion. However, after a few months of leadership Obama has demonstrated some of the most un-Christian and immoral intents of any president in American history, and I suspect he’s just getting warmed up. I’ll be happy to go into all the evil policies Obama has enacted and those he intends to enact if anyone cares for me to write such a lengthy essay, but for this posting, suffice it to say that anyone who tries to defend this man as a Christian is far from one him or herself. I shudder at the twisted interpretation of scripture required to make such an assertion. Mr. D. Michael, I ask you, over the last three months, have you seen ANY evidence that would suggest Obama is a true Christian, one with a renewed heart and mind, other than his deceitful claims as such? Frankly, I am offended at your suggestion that Obama is a Christian based upon his supposed demonstration of the fruits of the spirit. Any idiot can imitate those things when facing a camera of microphone. And this has nothing to do with liberal or conservative, republican or democrat as you suggest. As a loyal and devoted follower of our LORD AND SAVIOR, I can assure you, based upon his actions, Obama does NOT have a renewed spirit and Christ does NOT live in him (as he systematically dismantles our beloved free and CHRISTIAN nation). Mr. D. Michael, you cannot submit an argument I've never heard before. I am a black man who is frequently attacked from within my own circle of acquaintances for labeling Obama as the boogieman. Well, guess what – from a CHRISTIAN standpoint, he is.

I will pray that God will change your heart and I will pray that you reconsider your position as an apologist for B.O. If you would like objective details to back up my assertions above, I will be happy to provide a long list of them. I look forward to your response.

[shane swann]

are you people insane? i am white, i believe in the christian GOD and i voted for obama. call me crazy but i just thought he may be better than the warmonger we had with Bush. all of this anti-christ talk is nonsense. this is nothing more than a race issue and i am getting really disgusted when people start off by saying "this has nothing to do with race but...." if you begin your statement with those words then you are a liar. the fact is that it doesn't matter if he is or if he isn't the anti-christ. "my" bible states that he will come into power no matter what so it doesn't matter who you were afraid to vote for because if he is in fact the anti-christ, he'd have made it into office regardless. and why should it matter anyway? does this not mean you are finally about to be out of here and on your way to meet Jesus? that is still the ultimate goal isn't it? the fact is, is that racist right wing white republicans are so scared of the fact that a "nearly" black man is leading your country for the first time in history and you feel as if you are losing something to a "lesser" race...its nothing more than sheer ignorance. shame on you all for even getting caught up in this insanity. its ridiculous. and why are we as americans so arrogant to believe he will even rise to power in our country? are there not many other nations in which he could lead? i think we as americans tend to think that we have some sort of superior country to the rest of the worlds nations and this my friends is also garbage. i see stupid flags and yellow ribbons and "god bless america" stamped and painted on everything from bumper stickers to songs on the radio and its disgusting. we are the only country in the world who on a constant basis tell the rest of the world how much better we are than them. its total insanity. most of you do and say these things when you yourself have never crossed the borders of another country. i think what needs to happen here is we as americans and as christians should think before we speak and pray before we think. seems as if we'd get down to the "brass tacks" alot easier instead of having some stupid debate based upon hatred, racism, and fear. thanks for allowing me to speak my mind....God bless

[D.Michael]

BQT Makes this statement to Mr.D.Michael

I wonder if Mr. D. Michael still believes Obama to be the man of God as was stated in the posting back in September.

And BQT that would be Mrs.....

I never said Obama to be a man of God, I gave public reference to his background and Biblical references for those to consider that he fits the description the Beast of Revelations.

Obamah – The eye of Baal is correct being the Phoenician deity Baal of the high place meaning Bamah. See: Ezekiel 20:29 Therefore it is called Bamah unto this day. Read all of Ezekiel 20.
O or ayin meaning the eye. That being ayin-bamah - Obamah = the eye of Baal
According to Rev 13: The beast with seven heads that rises out of the sea has a deadly wound and the wound is healed, that being the first beast. Now to verify this through the spirit of truth we need to make sure who had the deadly wound.
According to Isaiah 51:9, Rahab was wounded…
According to Psalms 89:10 Rahab was broken in pieces as one that is (slain) – Hebrew for deadly wounded.
Rahab – represents the epithet of Egypt - pride – DELTA LAND OF THE PYRAMIDS, and the all Seeing Eye like the one on the dollar bill.
Now according to psalms 87, God word proclaims: That he would make mention of Rahab and Babylon to them that know him...That word mention is very important in the Hebrew, it means to mark so as to be recognized. It also states BEHOLD! Three places are made mention of, that this man was born there.
Now the 3 places are Philistia, Tyre and Ethiopia. As born there in the Hebrew this means to show a pedigree and lineage. According to these 3 places, this would make this man half white and half black, that being part Greek and part Ethiopian.
Also it is mentioned that when the Lord counts and writes up the people it will noted that this man was born there. The word count here in the Hebrew means to declare a number, to score with a mark to tally and record by implication to inscribe and enumerate.
Now has for Daniel 11:20 the raiser of taxes represents one who through war established a higher tax. Taxes are always raised in WAR. Now Bush fits that bill. The words few days in the Hebrew represents as to be united as to unify for war. The Hebrew word for days represents a space of time by an associated term. The word destroyed here does not represent death, but in the battle he has started, it means he is to be broken into pieces as broken hearted and brought to ruin by affliction by vexation. Bush has received a lot of criticism and lost a lot of respect because of the decisions and lies he made, and told to start this war.

Obama fits this description
Daniel 11:21
And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries.

Out of the mouth of 2 or 3 witness let every word be established. David and Isaiah, and Daniel
And to all I say watch, and continue in the love of God…

Peace unto you all in Yeshuah Messiah!

[Jim Stensland]

Obama is the 7th king in Rev. 17:10 and the Anti-Christ who was one of the 7 will become the 8th king.

Rev. 17:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, [and] the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
17:11And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

In June 2004 there were 5 former pres. still alive when George W. #6 was in office they were.....
1. Gerald Ford
2. Jimmy Carter
3. Ronald Reagan
4. George H. W. Bush
5. Bill Clinton
6. George W. was present tense in June, 2004
7. Barack Obama

Dan. 11:20
Then shall stand up in his estate a raiser of taxes [in] the glory of the kingdom: but within few days he shall be destroyed, neither in anger, nor in battle.
11:21 And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries.

I hope you can understand what i am saying here! The Bible prophecy says that Obama will die a few days after he raises taxes! I think this tax increase will be Obamas tax on the rich that he promised during his election campain!